I am too tired right now and about to go to bed. I promise to watch it tomorrow morning. I am sure it is a wonderful speech.

I watched some of the speech Frazz. What I saw was well done, but I cannot take 30 mins. of any Clinton. Sorry. I would have loved a woman as a presidential nominee, just not that woman. Maybe some doors are more open now and in 4 or 8 years the right woman will come along. One who is not so polarizing or comes with as much baggage.

I was hoping you could detach from who she is. Maybe that is too much to ask. For me it was the first time i have seen a woman (including actresses playing leaders) come across believable as the President.

I don't think I can explain this properly... but it isn't about Clinton, it is about a woman, any woman, standing up and delivering such a speech. ANd it ain't about having Hillary be the president.

I have never before seen a woman give a speech meant for the whole country to hear, that was that clean.

Well, I have seen women give speeches at the conventions. I have watched Elizabeth Dole give speeches for the whole country. Hillary had a good speech writer. She can deliver a speech well. That doesn't mean I believe what she says. I think her and Bill are wonderful actors.

I understand what you are saying and how you felt. I felt that way when I watched Jane Byrne when she was the mayor of Chicago. I was always filled with pride watching her.

I have seen Elizabeth Dole and many women at conventions. Many have been good speakers, regardless of their specific views. But not like this.

I think i simply cannot convey what I mean about what is different here, but it has something to do with genuinely cracking a disbelief that a woman, ANY woman, can ever come across as presidential as a good man with a great speech can.

I think Hillary cracked something that will make it MUCH more possible for another woman to come along in the not too-distant future and WIN IT.

But I wonder who that woman will be? Maybe one of the current sitting female Senators? I'd say Nancy P. might be a heavy possibility. But its at least 4 years away.

I truly hope I get to see a woman President in my lifetime.

I just spent ten days with a lovely woman and very good friend who is a conservative Republican, thought that the guy with a bumper sticker of a picture of Bush with the word "Liar" under it was "stupid" and is pro-oil (she's from Texas).

I was also in a VERY conservative town. (I didn't start seeing the sticker above and the Obama stickers until we went to Santa Fe. Note to self: if you move to New Mexico, move to Santa Fe).

Y'all know I'm not exactly shy about my opinions. I also don't shy away from debate. So, it might come as a shock to you when I say that when she talks about poliitics I just smile, nod my head, and keep my big yap SHUT. This is to save a friendship I value. I know she will never change my mind and I will not be changing hers. Her family comes from a military background. I pretty much don't agree with ANYTHING she says politically, so it is hard not to speak, but I know it will just lead to hair-pulling. She knows I"m a tree-hugging liberal and I think my silence sometimes speaks louder than my arguing.

I'm not crazy about Hillary's personality. Until recently, I adored Bill. I think it's like what Frazz said about the Kennedy's. They get things done.

I think ALL politicians are actors. Every last one of them. I don't know how often we see someone in a truly honest moment, but these people are prepped beyond imagination. That doesn't seem to help our current prez when he's making speeches...

When people say "well Clinton got a BJ in the white house" or "they ruined Arkansas!" or whatnot, and they're Bush supporters, I just shake my head. Lowest approval ratings of any president, a war fought NOT against the people who actually attacked us. Lied to a nation. They're like, Oh yeah...THAT. Whatever. We've got to WIN that war! Win it? WHAT? Yeah! Keep the troops there! More body bags please! My friend just wrote me that her friend's son is coming home from the war in one of those body bags. Never before in history have I felt this powerless. I am in desperate need of change. I'm in desperate need of hope. I'm praying Obama can give me that.

I am more than desperate. Seriously. I did see her speech and I thought it was good. I still do not trust Bilary. But the speech was inspiring. You know what? I don't think Bill did Hilary any good stumping for her. He does not know when to keep his mouth shut.

Or his zipper.

Speaking of Iraq, I saw a news report the other day that said their real estate market is up like 67% this year. This is while ours is plummeting. They showed a home that had been on the market last year for $900,000 and sold last week for $1.2. No mortgages over there, all cash transactions.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE? Or is it just me being over sensitive?

There are so many problems in this country right now my head is spinning. We have a wedding to go this Saturday and we will probably spend about $100 just on gas to get there. My grocery bills are insane. Our property taxes are criminal. More and more comes out of hubby's pay check for medical and it covers less as the premiums go up. Homes around us are sitting for sale for months and months. People we know are losing their jobs. College education and book fees are enough to put you in the poor house There is a lot wrong with the picture.

I never would have thought such a huge pertion of our income would go to gas. Would you? Remember that is not something you used to think about. I think it maybe 10% of income or more. And it keeps going up.I mean I really wonder why. Is it because global demand is up. I know China uses much more than they used to.

As far as medical costs I think it sux really bad that certain people get care for free and we have to pay even with insurance. And FC is right the preminums keep going up. Why not have an even playing field here? I am not being prejudice by saying illegals get it free. My SIL is a nurse in Maimi and she tells me all the time this is so. It's not fair.

I have friends in the UK and they tell me their system is not perfect but they don't go bankrupt paying the bils.

Gas was the equivalent of 8-9 dollars per gallon in Italy last November when I was there. It has always been way higher over there for them from my understanding. I don't really know the politics of why, but I assume it is because they don't have any oil production themselves and don't have the buying powere our country does to get the gas over here. People drive tiny little toylike cars, mopeds and motorcycles, and use public transportaion and trains. And walk everywhere. You just don't see many overweight people over there.

I do remember when gas was really expensive way back in the early 80's when we had our last recession... or was that the late 70's? When there was gas rationing and gas lines in California and other major cities. I wonder if it will get to that again. Bottom line is we all need to make some major changes in our lifestyles and tighten our belts, And not get complacent when things get better again and go back to our overcomsuming ways.

It was the 70's, I believe. Late 70's. I think they did something about it on CHiPs, but don't quote me on that.

My friend went to London and she said the same thing about the price of gas. It's at least double ours.