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Green Eyez



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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:49 pm

Whew! Well, I for one am RELIEVED she cleared that all up.


I have seen the actual Newsweek (where I am right now, they're subscribers" and can say that frazz is right. I cannot believe how idiotic people can be. Well, as long as they're sticking to the important issues.

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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Sat Oct 11, 2008 3:50 am

Heh. On the other hand, here is today's headline:

Probe Finds Palin Abused Power in Case of Trooper
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:39 pm

I thought she had cleared herself. I don't understand. Isn't the "I didn't do it so stop bothering me" defense enough?

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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:47 am

The newest gambit is that Palin now declares the probe found she had done nothing wrong.
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:39 pm

That's enough for me!

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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:15 am

People who can lie about something so clearly a lie really scare me profoundly.


The report said she abused power. The finding said she abused power. All the newspaper reports on the decision say the findings were that she abused power.

How can she say they found she did nothing wrong?????
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:00 am

Ummmm...she'll spin it to say abusing power=good? Like, she's being a powerful woman? Ya think?

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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:23 am

She is out and out claiming triumph. As in an actor saying they GOT the part, when they did NOT.
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Thu Oct 16, 2008 3:49 am

FINAL DEBATE! Ok, I though McCain was less shockingly weird and robot-llike than he was in the previous two, and though he almost actually tried to present some substantive viewpoints, he didn't stick with that intention, and therefore did not do it. His Ayers and Joe the Plumber stuff were just pathetic.

Obama continues to seem like a reasonable, intellegent, interested-in-finding real solutions to making our collective everybody-who-does-not-make-quarter-of a-million-dollars lives better.

I do not blame people who make $260,000 a year, have mortgages they cannot afford, for opposing him. He will not help that 2% of people.

But I surely do not understand anybody making less than $200,000 oposing him. And I really do not understand zilionaires caring who wins on a financial level. They have zillions and are immune to real concerns.

Love to hear all other points of view, especialy from all those who make more than a quarter of a million a year.

My local plumbers might make that much. Goodness knows they charge four times what I make per hour to have a visit.

(Somehow I doubt they do make that much around here, but I know that both they and I work very hard for all our income).

Joe the Plumber isn't a quarter-millionaire just from working hard for years and years as McCain says. If he actualy makes that much, he is ripping off people like me.
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:07 pm

I thought McAin did okay for the first 30 minutes but after that it went downhill. hE kept brigbing up Ayrs and the terroist connection. You Know what ? People DO NOT WANT TO HEAR THAT. we are in a recession. Do you know that 10% of americansare now on food stamps? Look the economics and the policies of the last eight years have not worked. PERIOD.
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:47 pm

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But I surely do not understand anybody making less than $200,000 oposing him. And I really do not understand zilionaires caring who wins on a financial level. They have zillions and are immune to real concerns.

As I've said, I have a very good friend who's a George Bush Republican. As I've also said, we don't discuss politics. Even if she brings it up, I actually keep my mouth shut. I know, hard to believe, right?

Anywhoo, her family is very rich. You know, with the trust funds, etc. She keeps complaining to me how her family is going broke with what's happening to the economy and how much less they're worth (I will admit that when you have millions, and your net worth is decreased also by millions, it can seem a bit daunting.)

So, she also keeps saying how her dad is telling her Obama is going to win and they'll be taxed even more, etc., and they have to tighten their belts.

She also gets really upset at how much of her paycheck goes poof and how is it fair that they worked hard and earned all this money and just because they have that much, they get taxed so hard.

So, I'm not saying I agree or disagree. I'm just trying to give you the perspective from the other side, since none of us here make that kind of money.

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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:55 am

I do understand that there are people who have lots of money, however they got it, not wanting to give any of it to anybody else.

I just wish they would all move to a monarchy somewhere.
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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:11 pm

Hmmmm...interesting concept. I'll bring it up to my friend. ;-)

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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Sat Oct 18, 2008 6:33 pm

THIS! Is interesting!!!!!

Quote:
Unlikely Newspapers Endorse Obama
AP
posted: 4 HOURS 2 MINUTES AGO

WASHINGTON (Oct. 17) - Democrat Barack Obama on Friday won endorsements from two unlikely newspapers -- the Chicago Tribune and the Los Angeles Times.

While the Tribune is the largest daily in Obama's hometown, the publication hasn't backed a Democrat in its 161-year history. And the Times hasn't endorsed a presidential candidate since 1972, when it backed President Richard M. Nixon's re-election. This is also the first time it's endorsing a Democrat for president.

In an editorial posted on its Web site, The Tribune said the country needs a president who can lead it through a "perilous time" and restore "a common sense of national purpose." Obama is the best candidate to do that, the editorial board said.

"We have tremendous confidence in his intellectual rigor, his moral compass and his ability to make sound, thoughtful, careful decisions," the Tribune said. "He is ready."

The Tribune said it liked Republican presidential nominee John McCain, but added that it's "hard to figure John McCain these days."

The Times, the country's fourth-largest newspaper, said McCain's campaign had left the candidate "nearly unrecognizable." His selection of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin for running mate was "irresponsible," it said.
"Palin is the most unqualified vice presidential nominee of a major party in living memory," the Times said. "The decision calls into question just what kind of thinking — if that's the appropriate word — would drive the White House in a McCain presidency."


The Times said the U.S. needs a president who displays grace under pressure, is not prone to volatile gestures and understands the legal foundations of American freedom.

"Obama is educated and eloquent, sober and exciting, steady and mature. He represents the nation as it is, and as it aspires to be," the Times said.

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PostSubject: Re: Politics   Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:32 am

Yep, it does seem that more of mainstream America is wanting some calm and substantive reasoning in the top power layer. Tha tis a very good thing, in my view.

on another note, Sarah Palin was on Saturday Night Live tonight. I am sure there will be clips so you can see it onoline, so I won't summarize now.

My take: Palin would actually much rather have a career doing something like performing on SNL than being Governor or President.

She seems just plain depressed on the show. She danced (incomprehensibly) to a rap song trashing her and her views. She (or at Least MCCain's campaign) could certainly have gotten her out of it, so why did she do it? Insane.
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