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PostSubject: Re: MOVIES!   Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:45 am

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Batman star Christian Bale argued with his sister after she asked him for £100,000 to help raise her children, it was alleged today.


The 34-year-old Batman star is reported to have snubbed the plea and allegedly 'pushed and shoved' Sharon and his mother Jenny, 61, during a row in his suite at the Dorchester Hotel on Monday.

A source told The Sun: 'Christian is a very wealthy man and was asked to help his sister out financially.

'He was asked to loan her £100,000 but he refused and it caused an almighty row.'

Jenny Bale is also said to have made highly disparaging comments about the star's glamorous wife of eight years, Sibi, 38, a former make-up artist and model.

Last night, Bale attended the Spanish premiere of The Dark Knight in Barcelona, but refused to speak to reporters and made no comment about the incident.

The astonishing family feud is said to have happened on Sunday evening in Bale's £6,000-a-night suite at the Dorchester hotel in central London.

The women, who live relatively modest lifestyles in Dorset, were in capital to attend the following day's premiere of the latest Batman film, The Dark Knight.

However, the family group started to argue about money.


A friend told the Daily Mail said: 'Things got out of control and he now says he wishes he just left the room. Normally Christian would just call a friend and go out to a pub to cool off.


'But he was literally trapped into this confrontation with his mother and sister because there was an army of paparazzi and fans outside.'

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PostSubject: Re: MOVIES!   Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:32 am

I also heard the problem was his mom saying negative things about his wife. I don't think we will get the truth about what really caused the problem and exactly what took place, and frankly that is probably the way it should be. This family is being forced to air it's dirty laundry with the world. Sucks being famous sometimes I bet.
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PostSubject: Re: MOVIES!   Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:09 pm

Like I said (and frazz) the really good actors are very intense. Artistic-type people tend to be a little more tempermental. I am drawn to artistic people, but can see where there would be a lot more trouble there.

Yeah, I don't believe about a star until I see them when they think there are no cameras or I have a personal encounter.

I just don't think Christian would be stupid enough to physically assault family members. I would imagine he can get pretty loud. He seems like a guy who could get loud, but not physically assertive.

HOWEVER, if anyone can make you physically assertive, it's a family member. That's a cumulative thing. It's a snapping thing. You take it until you can't anymore. They're family, so it's closer. Usually you can't just walk away like in other relationships.
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PostSubject: Re: MOVIES!   Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:19 am

I love the cast of characters in this drama (seriously):

Mother (saw a pic of her today) was a circus clown, and still looks like a saucy one.

She was married to a guy who, after he left her, eventually married Gloria Steinem!!!!! THen he died a few years ago.

Christian's wife looks like Gloria Steinem.

I don't think I have seen the sister yet, but she is the dorky one, in terms of career, doing IT stuff.

I love this family!

WHole bunch of crazy actor types (and a dorky sister who has a kid and maybe asked her now-zillionaire brother for $200,000 to help her raise her kid.
I have no idea what really happened, but I do enjoy the colorful nature of the characters.

When I though he assaulted some poor old dowdy mother I really did not like the story. But a hottie circus clown!

I look forward to hearing more from the mom.
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PostSubject: Re: MOVIES!   Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:18 am

I saw "The Dark Knight" on Thursday. It was okay, I guess. I wasn't impressed that much by Heath Ledger's performance. I thought he was good but it certainly wasn't anything that I thought would generate Oscar buzz. Frankly, I thought Gary Oldman stole the movie.
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PostSubject: Re: MOVIES!   Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:08 am

LOL, Badger..I still haven't seen it, but I suspect I will feel the same way.

I absolutely thought that Heath would one day do brilliant work in worthy roles, but he was so young. I like his work. I was rooting for him. But he had not reached the true brilliant level , even in Brokeback, where i thought Heath did a great job, but i thought Jake Gyllenhaal did, to a disturbing (to me, the audience) level, reach the heights.

Somehow I also suspect that I will not regard the Joker as a truly worthy role in a truly worthy movie.

And somehow Gary Oldman is always brilliant, no matter what, even if the role is not something most people, even me regarding the role sometimes, will enjoy. As an artist/actor, he is impeccable.
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PostSubject: Re: MOVIES!   Sat Jul 26, 2008 9:01 am

I thought Heath Ledger was pefection and hit all the right notes. And No I was not a HUGE Heath Ledger fan. I liked and enjoyed him , but he was excellent in this role. I know I will probably get slammed for saying this butI always hear about how great Nicholson is. Although I do enjoy watching him never for one minute do I forget he is indeed Jack Nicholson.
Christian Bale to me is still the best Batman. And Although Tim Burton is my favorite director. I do feel Christopher Nolan is the right fit at this time for this franchise.

Tim Burton's next project btw is Alice In Wonderland, I can't wait for that.
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PostSubject: Re: MOVIES!   Sat Jul 26, 2008 9:23 am

I couldn't agree more about Nickleson! He is always Nickleson. That is how I felt about John Wayne. No matter what old movie I see him in, he is always just John Wayne. Always.
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PostSubject: Re: MOVIES!   Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:02 am

I watched Love in the Time of Cholera last night.

Based on a novel by Gabriel García Márquez... the novel was so wonderfully individual in the writers voice, even as translated from Spanish to English, I doubted it would really work as a film.
But the star is Javier Bardem (my crush) so I went for it.

What an odd movie...so ambitious in some ways, including Javier's attempt to play a nerdy guy with a stalker-like crush that lasts for over 50 years, and so cheesily unambitious in other ways...wretched age makeup, soppy editing mistakes, stuff like that.

But...I still like anything that tries to do something artistic, so I enjoyed it on that level.

Anybody else see it?
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PostSubject: Re: MOVIES!   Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:15 am

I saw it . I did not care for it. I love Javier but this was my least favorite. For one it way too long. One of my favorite Javier movies is Live Flesh. See it if you haven't . It is directed by Pedro Almadovar. I love his movie. I would love to go see Vicky Christina Barcelona but I HATE Woddy Allen. Narcisstic FW.
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PostSubject: Re: MOVIES!   Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:57 am

I will look for Live Flesh at the cool DVD place.

Woody Allen is on my permanent boycott list, too.
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PostSubject: Re: MOVIES!   Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:11 pm

Wow. I didn't know Woody was affiliated with Vicky Christina. They must be trying to hide it for obvious reasons. It's funny that so many well-respected actors still want to work with him.

I have not seen "Cholera". I like weird artsy-fartsy stuff sometimes (I'm one of those people who enjoys indie and commercial equally) but "Cholera" just never appealed to me. Maybe it was the title. I don't know. I've heard some good things.

Maybe I haven't been there mentally to see these movies. Like, there was a movie out many years ago called "Breaking the Waves" which I understand is completely brilliant. A couple of people who saw it said they were just REALLY affected by it. I know that for a movie like this I have to prepare myself to watch it. Maybe because I look at movies as a kind of escape is the reason I still haven't been able to bring myself to watch it. Perhaps this will be the year.

A movie that did affect me for days afterward is "Arlington Road" with Jeff Bridges. When you watch something that scary and that PLAUSIBLE it can scare the bejeezus outta you. I warned another girl who was going to see it that it would mess with her mind big time. She saw it and freaked out.

Now, both the title "Live Flesh" and Pedro Almodovar make me wanna see that movie. I'll look it up.

Oh, and something that blew me away when I first saw the previews of "Vicky Christina". When I first looked at Javier, I thought he was the guy who plays the father on Supernatural (he was also on Grey's Anatomy for a short time playing Izzie's fiance - he's actually coming back even though he's dead...hmmm...) Jeffrey Dean Morgan. People had said that JDM was the poor-man's Javier. Here's the comparison.





Found another one where JDM REALLY looks like Javier.

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PostSubject: Re: MOVIES!   Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:00 pm

Whoa they really like alike. Big Time.

ANYTHING Almodovar does I love. Anything. That is how I first saw Javier. I remember when I read the Coens were going to cast him in No Country I thought, What??? But I guess that is why they are famous directors and I am not.
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PostSubject: Re: MOVIES!   Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:21 pm

Yuh, but Jeffery is a kinda creepy mouth-breather.

ducking

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I came upon Javier quite by accident in time when I was just downloading/renting various independent and foreign movies.

Came upon this one:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0369702/

where an injured middle aged man goes through some stuff. I thought Javier was around 60. And I thought it uncanny that they found a young man who resembled him so exactly!

Turns out, of course that Javier was really a young actor playing both ages.

His acting (and the make-up) in that one was so extraordinary I bought it completely.
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PostSubject: Re: MOVIES!   Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:58 pm

frazz, do you know JDM personally or as an actor?

That's funny. Will check out the movies. Thanks for sharing!

Oh, there's another movie that affected me like for days. The premise will give most people the creeps. It's called "Mother". Daniel Craig is in it looking quite awesome, but OMG...the role.

It's amout this kind of frumpy mom who comes to visit her kids and she carries on an affair with the handyman? I am trying to remember. It was a long time ago. The handyman was Craig. Lord, the sex scenes are rough to watch. It's a movie that will make you squirm.

Arty indie film.
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PostSubject: Re: MOVIES!   Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:30 pm

No, I do not know Jeffrey in real life, and have not heard any stories about him as a human. Juast going on Grey's Anatomy where he was supposed to be the hottest thing ever with Izzie and I found him exceedingly creepy.

After that I watched some of the Supernaturals online, and he was still doing the mouth-breathing thing.

This is not a deep rooted dislike, on my part. So I will give it up if it will make us more joyous!!

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The Javier film (in American it is called something Like The Sea Within) is very low key, very talky, very slow. Sometimes I like such things, and I like this one, but it might put others to sleep.

From seeing Javier in American movies I will say that the quotes attributed to him on IMDB about the difference between saying "I love you" in American and Spanish are vast for him as an actor. I believe he is much better, as a pure artistic actor, when he speaks Spanish, however fun and cool he is in English.
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PostSubject: Re: MOVIES!   Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:42 pm

Oh no. I was just curious. I know you tend to know a lot of people and I was curious if you got the creepy vibe from his acting or if you had met him in real life.

Sometimes his breathing bugs, but when he smiles, I think he's really sexy. Plus, I saw his bum in "P.S. I Love You" and I liked what I saw.
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PostSubject: Re: MOVIES!   Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:08 pm

I will try to make it known from here on out when I know somebody personally enough for that to matter. If I don't say i do, I don't.

The weird dynamic that happened when I posted Jon Voight's insane rant about how Obama was going to destroy our children is the only time I remember initially posting something from a non-personal point of view and wound up in a crazy "who knows more inside info" deal up and feeling compelled to say I knew him.

I am not sure how I should have handled that one, but hopefully I can do better if it ever comes up again.

The one about Danielle Panabaker also took me by surprise.

Sometimes I don't remember that I actually know, or even sort of know, people until the more outrageous (pro or con) things get posted about them!

That is a truth about being a working non-star for many years. I do actually know lots of people, and have met many and witnessed many.

But I do not know Jeffrey. I had to think about it a bit to make sure I do not know him and do not know anyone who has talked to me about him before i would honestly state that I was speaking from a pure audience point of view!!

Ahhhh, the tough life of a peripheral player!
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PostSubject: Re: MOVIES!   Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:32 pm

No worries. I forgot you watched Grey's and didn't think you would have had occassion to see Jeffrrey act. He's not a regular on any show and most people don't know who he is. I was surprised you knew him and just figured it must be because you knew him personally. I guess I do think you know everybody. I was ready to get all excited that you could give me some scoop on him. I do so love your stories and you tell them in a very colorful way.

I hope you don't stop telling us stuff you know from your experiences.

Because I live in L.A. and have worked on studio lots, I have seen some stars and talked to them and gotten to hear stories or see them personally and I have found out some naughty things about seemingly nice guys/gals and also found out some of the actors who seem to be decent folk, really are. So, someone will bring up the name of an actor or actress and I'll tell a story about them. Hey, everyone in L.A. has met an actor at one time or another.
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PostSubject: Re: MOVIES!   Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:07 am

Did I mention Anthony Hopkins is an insane asshole?
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PostSubject: Re: MOVIES!   Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:10 pm

See what I mean? You're awesome! I'll be awaiting that story.
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PostSubject: Re: MOVIES!   Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:35 pm

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Did I mention Anthony Hopkins is an insane asshole?

Do you encounter that an annoying amount in your neck of the woods?
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PostSubject: Re: MOVIES!   Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:11 pm

It was always surprising to see who was a jerk and who was a decent human.

No way to tell from the public persona!

I do not have any insane assholes among my co-workers at my current job, but there sure were some at the art museum.

In show biz, obviously, the assholes tend to reveal themselves pretty quickly inside the job, if not off set.

Hopkins was the star of a play I had a very small role in (mainly I was there to understudy the leading lady). So I mostly just sat and watched as he interacted with the director and the rest of the cast.

Not a fun guy.
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PostSubject: Re: MOVIES!   Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:31 pm

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No way to tell from the public persona!

This does not surprise me. They are actors. I would think they would know how to appear to be nice for short periods of time. It's just another character. Heck, I would think that even the NICE people would have to put on a public face a little bit. I am a natural introvert; I could not imagine dealing with a bunch of strangers who know that much about me and want to talk to me without developing some kind of regular patter about what I was going to say to them and how much I was willing to reveal.

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Woody Allen is on my permanent boycott list, too.

Because he's a real personal asshole or just because he's really obviously creepy in ways that the public can see?
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PostSubject: Re: MOVIES!   Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:59 pm

I'm guessing the boycott is because of the marrying the daughter thing. I still can't believe he has a career after that.

I think Mr. Hopkins had a problem with the bottle, which probably didn't help.

I have met some really nice actors! I have seen Kevin Spacey right after he won his Oscar. Everyone and his brother was coming up to him and he was gracious. Jay Leno seems to live up to his nice guy reputation. Tim Daley was a doll and a half. Dustin Hoffman seems nice. I met the tall, handsome, blue-eyed Brendan Fraser and he was a total sweetie.

Tony Danza...oy. Kind of jerky and a sleazebag to boot. Helen Hunt - beeyotch. On the other hand, Paul Reiser is cool.

I think that there has to be somewhat of a public face, but you witness a person long enough and you get their true colors.

I just didn't want y'all to think that all the stars are only nice in interviews. There are some who seem to have their feet planted on the ground.
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