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PostSubject: Re: Plastic Surgery   Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:31 pm

Oh yeah! Crap for that price I get brave and do it too!!
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PostSubject: Re: Plastic Surgery   Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:44 pm

I know! It is too great a deal not to go every 6-8 weeks! One of the students that we are working with told me she thought I looked like I was in my 30's the other day...that motivated me to make another appointment! Laughing Flattery will always convince me to spend more money and endure the pain! It really isn't that bad though.

The redness is subsiding already. cheers thanks for the support Lau and FC...It really is amazing what good results you can get non-surgically and non-invasively.(aka: no injections)
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PostSubject: Re: Plastic Surgery   Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:16 pm

Luca, delighted to hear about it!.

If I had the money I would definitely get my skin razed, though queasiness would prevent any cutting.

On ebay I did buy some corrosive acid (TCA, I think) and I zapped my own worst facial seborrheic keratosis (age barnacles) at one point. I am prone to them, alas, and so I might as well have not done it.

I sure with there was a non-cutting way to lift jowels though. i would do that one in a minute.
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PostSubject: Re: Plastic Surgery   Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:32 pm

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I sure with there was a non-cutting way to lift jowels though. i would do that one in a minute.
I hear ya!I have using a product that is an off brand of that Strivectin stuff that Isaac Mizrahi is the spokesperson for that is 100.00 a tube that has been quite helpful in firming the loose skin under the chin...I think it is about 25.00-it also may help with the jowels. There is also a product by Sephora that is pricey, but sounds intruiging called "Liftfusion" that I would like to try.

I think there are some non-surgical treatments that increase collagen production that you could investigate...problem is they are probably 400-500.00 and would require maintenance to keep up.

Right now I don't mind going for the maintenance part because I can afford the 40.00-50.00 every 6 weeks or so. I was on the verge of considering getting some laser treatments with a local plastic surgeon's esthetitian to help with some brown spots, but got pretty good results with the microdermabrasion and mini-peels so was happy to not have to shell out 500.00 for a package of 4 treatments. I wonder if a beauty school or esthetician school in your area could offer you some discounted services. The gal I go to is a full-time teacher that does the facial stuff on the side for extra money.
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PostSubject: Re: Plastic Surgery   Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:41 am

My jowels are deep stuff that no amount of skin treatments can deal with. I keep trying to do things with my face and inside my mouth with m y tongue muscles to lift it, but SHIT nature just cannot be touched by them.


All the women who really look great after 55 or so have gotten cut by good ones.
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If I had zillions I might do ti , because i could also buy people to take care of me.

On the other hand, I am much more likely to work as an actor if i continue to droop.
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PostSubject: Re: Plastic Surgery   Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:15 am

Laughing Yeah Let it droop! I have seen a photo of you within the last year and you looked pretty smashing to me! Wink Plus, character roles are lots more fun I bet when you don't have to worry about looking sexy.

If I was an actor and had the money to get face work done, I may do it too. But, it would be by the best that money could buy and it would be kept to a minimum.

I have to say that I still care about what I look like, but really don't stress about any of it. And that feels good. Very Happy

Day 2 report:
Face no longer is lobster red, just slightly pink and easily color adjusted with make-up. The prickley feeling when I touch my face is almost gone.
Also, the tight feeling is lessening. So far, really not bad at all! I think the results are going to be good too. Gearing up for massive peeling. Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Plastic Surgery   Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:31 am

Yes, but the massive peeling is so good for the shin. When Eric was on Accutane his skin peeled a lot at first. The boy has been off of it for over two years now and not one single blemish! He has great skin now! I bet yours will look great for quite some time!
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PostSubject: Re: Plastic Surgery   Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:13 pm

A friend of mine had that done and her face looks wonderful!! But my Lord you got a deal . I wish I could find a deal like that. I mean I exfoliate but sheesh. Her skin looks like a baby's butt. But she paid hundreds!!

I have a confession to make.I get Botox injections. But but but the reason I do is have an extreme case of tmj disorder. I hav always had it but several years ago I feel from a horse and head my head on a tree and it made it much worse. I suffered from excruiating headaches. Like stay in the bed kind. As y'all know and am active person and it depressed me. I was on every kind of medicine for headaches known to man until I started getting botox injections. I absolutely have no more headaches. I only go every six months at that and I can feel when it starts to wear off. But the places where i get the injections I am wrinkle free, no lie. I do have to get then in my forehead and some on my jaw . I still have to wear a splint in my mouth at night because of the condition and sometimes during the day. But those shots gave me a new lease on life. My dr. told me that botox was intially for headaches.
So that's my secret confession.

I do use Alphaderma CE on my face . It is expensive but a bottle last about a year. I think it helps. And principal Secret cleansers yes, that stuff on tv. It is about the only thing that does not break me out.
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PostSubject: Re: Plastic Surgery   Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:00 pm

Thanks for sharing your experience Aerwin. I wondered about how well and how long botox works. My husband has severe bruxism and jaw issues (not so much TMJ) and he tried the botox injections, but they did not help him and one treatment was 1,000.00 and his insurance would'nt pay for it because it was considered experimental at the time. Evil or Very Mad
He only had one or two treatments, and we did not notice any reduction in wrinkles, but he did'nt have many at the time he got the shots anyway.

I am so glad it helps you with your headaches and you get the added bonus of no wrinkles on your forhead and lower face! cheers

The esthetitian that did my peel's face also looks as smooth as a baby's butt, and I know she must be at least in her late 50's. She has got it down to a science. I hope she continues to do this for a very long time! Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Plastic Surgery   Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:36 pm

I want a baby bottom face!!!!!!!!!

Aerwin, so sorry that you had to suffer those headaches and have so many issues like that. I am thrilled that you found something works for you inside and out!!
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PostSubject: Re: Plastic Surgery   Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:15 pm

Lord my Botox cost no where near 1000! more like 400 evey six months but we pay eighty dollars out of pocket, It has certainly worked for me. I still want to find someone do a peel that cheap.lucky.
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PostSubject: Re: Plastic Surgery   Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:49 pm

Aerwin,I'll trade you the good deal on the botox for a good deal on the peels! Wink

My forehead is moving more than I want it too these days...I bet botox would help decrease wrinkles from getting too bad there.

I am curious to ask about your horse accident, but it sounds really bad and I get nightmares about stuff like that so I will refrain. So glad you are able to get relief from the headaches. I know living with chronic pain can ruin your life.
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PostSubject: Re: Plastic Surgery   Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:35 pm

Aerwin, I have TMJ too, lucky for me that wearing a night guard alleviated the pain, that and being careful about what I chew, like no hard bread and stuff. TMJ is and can be very painful. I am sure glad you have found relief from that and your headaches. My headaches are stress/tension and a trip to the Chiropractor keeps them in check.


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PostSubject: Re: Plastic Surgery   Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:26 am

Sky I cannot believe you have it too. It took awhile for me to be correctly diagonised . I have a splint that fits the top of my mouth.I always wear it at night but sometimes during the day , too.
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PostSubject: Re: Plastic Surgery   Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:47 am

I don't even know what TMJ is Shocked Embarassed Embarassed

So sorry you both have to deal with it though Crying or Very sad
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PostSubject: Re: Plastic Surgery   Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:12 am

Aerwin, sorry to hear about your tmj. There was a time when I was grinding my teeth in my sleep and the dentist thought I was headed there. But I think for me it was more nerves and it seems to have worked out.

Luca, that's great that by day 2 its easing out already. This is really informative to read about. Thank you for sharing your experiences.
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PostSubject: Re: Plastic Surgery   Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:14 am

The temporomandibular joint (TMJ) connects of the skullís temporal bone to the mandible. There is one TMJ located on each of the head, right in front of the ear. Used every time a person chews, swallows, or talks, it is one of the most exercised joints in the human body.

To find your TMJ, place a couple of fingers in front of your ear, right on top of the slight bump you feel in that area. Next, open and close your mouth completely a few times. The joint you feel moving beneath your fingers is your TMJ.

The abbreviation TMJ is used not only to indicate the joint itself, but also to refer to a number of disorders involving the joint. Many individuals experience temporomandibular joint disorders that include such symptoms as pain, headaches, earaches, popping noises, clicking, toothaches, and difficulty extending the jaw completely. Some individuals with TMJ disorders experience soreness or constant aching, while others report sharp pains.

Millions of people throughout the United States and around the world suffer from TMJ disorders. In these people, the temporomandibular joint fails to function as expected, causing pain that may extend not only to the face, but also to the neck and head. Some individuals with TMJ disorders report pain that radiates all the way to the shoulders.
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PostSubject: Re: Plastic Surgery   Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:22 am

aerwin wrote:
Sky I cannot believe you have it too. It took awhile for me to be correctly diagonised . I have a splint that fits the top of my mouth.I always wear it at night but sometimes during the day , too.

My dentist knew right away what my problem was. After a car accident is when I developed it. Must have been I clenched too hard during that time and threw that whole joint out of whack. They had me on Ibuprofen initially for the pain. My jaw movement was limited and I could not open my mouth fully and I had to take very small bites and nothing real chewy for quite a long time. Even now, going to the dentist, having my mouth open with the pressure on the jaw is painful. So I wear a night guard in my mouth at night and it has helped a lot. It took a while, but it really is what helps the most.
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PostSubject: Re: Plastic Surgery   Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:53 am

Sky, That is so great your night guard has helped your jaw pain. My husband clenches his teeth really hard at night and he has a special device he wears that has helped him too. He does'nt have TMJ though. We have found that it really takes a Dentist that specializes in these issues to really get it under control.

Day 3 of the Peel Experience:

Yesterday I was light pink, able to go to work without stopping people in their tracks and experienced some slight itching on my chin and jaw.
Today I am itching more and noticed some slight peeling starting on my cheeks. My cheeks look slightly swollen which is a plus because my face looks less angular and younger. Too bad that won't last. The tightness is almost gone, and is mainly is in the lower part of my face now.
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PostSubject: Re: Plastic Surgery   Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:23 am

Glad to hear it is all going so well for you Luca!!

Sky, thanks so much for all the info! Sounds like something I hope I never have to deal with. Glad nothing more serious happened to you when you had the car accident.
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PostSubject: Re: Plastic Surgery   Sat Apr 12, 2008 12:22 pm

Just a few broken bones..............and whiplash. I always thought whiplash was a joke...........it's not.

I did see a dentist/Dr. that specialized in TMJ. He did help me alot. Weird story on the guy too, but won't go into detail. I don't think he's practicing anymore.......seems he took some liberties with some of his patients, not me.

I don't know if I could go through that whole 'peel' process, so good for you Luca.
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PostSubject: Re: Plastic Surgery   Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:30 pm

Well, I can see why many people may not chose to do a peel. I am getting more itchy and it is peeling. About like after a bad sunburn.
My face is quite pink tonight because when I took a shower I used an Olay cleansing cloth to take off some of the dead, peeling layer. It is having the top layer or two of your skin chemically burned off.

She only left the glycolic acid solution on my face for 2 minutes. Some people leave it on for 5-8 minutes. Shocked I don't think I could do that, because baby it burns. pale Not unbearable, but not very pleasant either. Then it continues to burn a little the rest of that night after having it done.

Did I mention it feels like she is grinding fiberglass or small pieces of glass into your skin when she puts on the second step of the process?
Luckily she described every step of the process that I would experience before she proceeded...so I knew exactly what I was in for. So far, it is
just what she told me. I just can't wait for the after results which should be in about a week or so.
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PostSubject: Re: Plastic Surgery   Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:29 am

I can't wait to see how you like it! my friend LOVES her face now. It does look great. I went to a specialist for tmj too and had my splint made to fit my mouth. I was in a car accident last summer too and it made mine worse. But between the shots , splint and yoga poses I am able to be as active as I like. When I was first diagonosed my husband thought that was the weirdest thing he had ever hear of.
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PostSubject: Re: Plastic Surgery   Sun Apr 13, 2008 7:01 am

Oh Luca, that does not sound fun No I hope it hurries up and feels all better soon! The process sounds a bit uncomfortable, but I always tell myself if I survived giving birth a 9 lb 3oz baby I can survive anything!
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PostSubject: Re: Plastic Surgery   Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:12 am

Exactly FC! This is like itching a bug bite compared to giving birth to a 9 pound baby I'm sure!!!!! Laughing

Today I am looking better! Just a light pink and minor peeling! My skin is so smooth too. Hardly a pore can be seen and the freckley discolorations on my cheeks are much less prominent. I know it was a good thing to do. Twisted Evil My goal is to wear as little make-up as possible. I am really into taking as little time and being as low-maintenance as possible when getting ready for work these days.

Aerwin, we used to think my husbands's problems with bruxism were rare too, but I think there are more people that suffer from this than people realize. Part of my husband's problem is as a teenager they removed several of his teeth when they did his braces. Needless to say his bite and occlusion are all messed up. No
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