Former Reality Show Contestants

So, I could understand if at first, when he's new to the semi-fame thing, that he would do this, but after all this time to still not learn his lesson is quite baffling to me.

I do think he takes drugs and that could be a part of it. I'm not saying this to be mean or nasty, but it could cause this type of behavior.

Yes, Frazz, that is the way he treated you and totally apropros of NOTHING. You didn't even say or do anything to him! (another reason I think he's totally on drugs.)

I tend to think dude is basically just majorly rude and insensitive. Yeah he dabbles in drugs and booze, but I don't think that is the why he randomly just goes off on people when he's in a bad mood or you dare to not grovel at his feet

When you combine the rude "It's all about me" attitude with a very impulsive, immature nature, and extremely egotistical personality- you get the end result of the spoiled, jerk that you want to slap up side the head, but that can be charming when he wants to be or when he feels like it.

Bottom line, He is a divo and has been most of his life from what I can tell.

Wow Luca. Very well-put. I do agree that he's only charming and nice when he wants something or when he feels like it, not because he's at all humble in any way. Charmers are very dangerous people. They do think only of themselves and how to act different ways to get what they want.

I don't think anyone can say they've ever seen him be tender. For real, not acting.

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I don't think anyone can say they've ever seen him be tender. For real, not acting

Thanks GE. I know he sucked a lot of us in when he was so shell shocked after getting booted off Idol. He really thought he was going to win and was completely blind-sided. We saw a glimpse of sincerity there when he was humbled to his knees, and he was genuinely sad and disappointed he did'nt make it to at least third. And we all were fooled when we thought that nice GB who got injustly voted off was who he really was. And many of us rallied around the underdog when he was down.

I sure have'nt seen any tenderness or sincerity since the night he got booted, and on some of his talk show appearances right after that. Once he recovered his groove back, he has acted like the pompous ass he is.

Actually, I think a lot of people thought he was going to do better than he did. He had never been in the bottom 2 or 3, and I guess he figured this would be more of a "scare" than anything else. Heck, I thought he'd be at least top 3 myself. And I think Bo Bice thought Carrie, Anwar Robinson and Constantine would be the top 3.

I'm glad he had those disappointments, and I'm kind of glad he's still struggling now - not, probably, for the same reason as you all, but perhaps a related reason. If he has it easy he will never, ever grow up enough to realize his own better self. It's good he did not win - he'd be frigging impossible now.

I do hope he continues to do well enough to keep going. Possibly the best case scenario is for his professional gas tank to be perpetually exactly 3/4 empty.

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And I think Bo Bice thought Carrie, Anwar Robinson and Constantine would be the top 3.

You think so? I think Bo thought he would most definitely be in the top 3 and had a good chance of going head to head with either Carrie or Constantine. Why Anwar? I think everyone including Bo knew he did'nt have the star power or stage presence to get into the top three. Definitely a good singer though. Anwar sounded very good live, and his performance was one of the best when I saw him perform. I was disappointed in Constantine. He voice sounded pretty good, but he just did'nt seem all that into it. Unfortunately, I did'nt get the opportunity to see Bo. I bet he put on a good performance. Carrie was quite impressive, except they cranked up her voice so loud it almost blew out your eardrums.

Bo has said he thought he'd finish in the middle of the pack.

If Constantine had not fouled out with that horrible cover of HYRM, Bo might have finished middle of the pack. Sometimes I think Carrie/Bo/Con was the expected F3, but sometimes I think that Bo and Con were competing for the same kind of casual vote and only one could make the higher echelons. When BoRhap was a big deal, Bo was in the cellar.

That really was a great year. But only Carrie really came out of it with any great success - as opposed to last year, where we've had hit albums from at least five people.

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Studdard Inks Club Deal With Performa

Wednesday, Aug 15, 2007 - 04:16 PM

By NBC 13 Staff

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. -- The velvet teddy bear is getting his own night spot in downtown Birmingham.

On Wednesday, the investment group Performa announced it has finalized an agreement with American Idol winner Ruben Studdard to open a club in the entertainment district.

Performa is working on leasing about 70,000 square feet of space to bring an entertainment district similar to Memphis’s Beal Street to downtown.

Recent American Idol winner Taylor Hicks is said to be headed to Memphis to negotiate a deal to bring his own club to downtown Birmingham as well.

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I sure have'nt seen any tenderness or sincerity since the night he got booted, and on some of his talk show appearances right after that. Once he recovered his groove back, he has acted like the pompous ass he is.

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If he has it easy he will never, ever grow up enough to realize his own better self. It's good he did not win - he'd be frigging impossible now.

See, I think he is impossible. I see no humility in him whatsoever. Luca is right. When he went out in 6th place, he did seem humble and it was a beautiful moment. That was the last I saw of humble GB. I don't really see a growth curve here in terms of him as a person. Usually going through something like he did, this is what happens.

Yes, I see now that he's had to take jobs he said he'd never take, but he's making it seem like this was his plan all along and look how great he's doing, rather than saying, "yeah, I really had to look reality in the face and re-position myself and by doing so I really learned a lot". He totally doesn't come off that way. Maybe it's because the die-hard fans also act like this was his plan all along, and he's like...uhhh...YEAH! This is exactly what I wanted! To have no major label so I had to fund my own album and get on a soap opera to sell it! I'm not saying this is bad or that it's not admirable that he believed enough in what he wanted to put up the money himself. I'm just saying that he acts as if he's Prince.

So, yeah, in terms of him realizing he'd better get off his ass and take some jobs, then absolutely, it's great, but in terms of his character, I believe he's learned absolutely nothing, judging from his behavior in interviews and towards his fans.

There's a scene in the movie "Fame" where a teacher is telling his students the realities of a career in acting. He tells them that less than 5% (I'm paraphrasing so it might be a lower or higher number - but it is a low number) of actors are actually in a situation where all their income comes from acting. And most of those people are doing commercials or guest appearances, etc. The rest have jobs to pay the bills while they audition for parts. My guess is that the music business is the same way.

Constantine's lucky because he's at least able to support himself through acting and singing and not have to wait tables, etc.

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So, yeah, in terms of him realizing he'd better get off his ass and take some jobs, then absolutely, it's great, but in terms of his character, I believe he's learned absolutely nothing, judging from his behavior in interviews and towards his fans.

It sure does'nt seem like there has been any character building going on with GB over the last 2-3 years when he has been on the edge of making it, but has'nt quite got there yet.

And ITA with Badger that indeed he has been extremely lucky to have been able to continue working in show biz, because truely, as far as his drive and talent-I have seen many other reality show contestants on AI and on other shows that are much more talented and focused than he was/is. I think he must have pretty good representation to get him a shot on the soap and in Brel. Obviously, he had to show up and "perform" well enough to keep himself employed.

I certainly don't think anyone could call him a performer that is destined
for greatness from what we have seen. I mean shoot...he is already 31-32. Not that early thirties is old by any means...there is just so much competition for leading men out there from younger, fitter, more conscientious guys who are better actors that he is going to have to compete with for decent parts. And hey, some of his competitors may even be nice people. What a concept.

Yeah, I think a lot of actors/singers etc. talk a big game about not doing certain things like soaps, etc. because they think it's beneath them but at the end of the day, they realize that a job is a job and they're damn lucky to have one. Constantine's hardly the first and he won't be the last to find that out.

Just in case anyone hasn't heard yet, Bo's CD is now scheduled to come out on October 23. That's the same day as Carrie Underwood's new CD.

Gee, competing with Carrie again I heard it was going to be self-produced like Con's. Is that right Badger?

Not quite, firecracker. Constantine started his own label to put out his CD. Bo is with an independent label. As far as we can tell, he's with Strat Arts which is affiliated with Strategic Artists Management which is his management company (and Clay's too).

Most of the fans are pretty sure that Carrie will clean his clock, sales-wise. But they're hoping he at least gets some positive reviews out of it and that it sells well.

Thanks for the info Badger!

Well, yes Carrie will clean his clock but if there were some way to get Bo's CD stacked by Carrie's people who go into the store to buy Carrie's may think "Hey, it's Bo! He was pretty good too!" and maybe he will get some sales that way. I hope he does well.

I read that Con has sold about 17,000 - 19,000 so far. He has a way to get to hit that 150,000. I saw a promo for the B&B concert that airs this Friday and Con looked and sounded really good on the clip they showed.

Well I will buy Bo's cd. Thanks Badger for the info.

You're welcome, firecracker and aerwin.

Firecracker, don't forget Elliott Yamin is also part of that concert segment tomorrow on The Bold and The Beautiful.

Yes I know Badger! I really love Elliott's CD! Was well worth the money. I am on the fence about Con's. I do like some of the songs. It will be fun seeing Elliott again. I'm very happy for him.

I want nothing but the best for Bo, a true talent. I was in the audience for that finale and when I found out he didn't win, I actually sat there with my arms folded. I looked around and quite a few more felt the same way I did. Good thing you couldn't see me on TV!

I don't like Carrie, but she is one who capitalized immediately and went for it. She knew what she had and she didn't let one moment slip by. Yes, she was the winner, but we've seen they don't treat all winners equally (Taylor and-oh my God I forgot her name for a second-that's bad-Jordin)

The media's lack of interest in Jordin and Blake is really something when you compare it to the incredible media attention Clay and Ruben received after AI2.

Carrie is a big haired gorgeous blonde with a big ole voice who was a small town farm girl who adored her critters. She is everything the country music people LOVE! I knew she would be huge.

I remember a Constantine fan blogged about the Season 4 finale, and she said the same thing - that there wasn't a lot of enthusiasm over Carrie winning.

I think Bo's health issues hurt him a lot because he missed a lot of valuable promotion time. Also, the fact is that his CD wasn't anything like you would expect him to sing. It's a good CD but most people probably thought it would have been more Southern rock than pop rock.

Badger, I totally agree with you about Bo. His health issues and that whole thing with wanting him to make a pop album, hurt him. They should have let Bo be Bo.

Yeah, most of the people who go to the finale are not the Country-music lovin' crowd. They love AI and many of them are rock lovers. Except for Carrie's family (totally lovely BTW) I didn't see many Carrie-lovers in the crowd. The audience was very subdued.

Little known factoid: if you listen reeeeeeeeeeeaaaalllly carefully, when Ryan takes that long dramatic pause, just as they're about to announce Carrie's name, you'll hear two of the people I went with scream "CONSTANTINE!" at the top of their lungs. Like, "the winner is"...long dramatic pause "CONSTANTINE!". You have to listen reeeeeallly carefully.

You had Kelly win AI 1, became huge. Ruben fell off the face of the earth. Clay F-2, became huge. Carrie and Kelly are the only winners who actually are winners.

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Carrie is a big haired gorgeous blonde with a big ole voice who was a small town farm girl who adored her critters

Ahhhh...all the reasons I don't like her. Besides being a stone-faced, cold-dead-eyed bitch. (bitter? moi?) It's all clear now. Thanks for laying it all out there for me! No, seriously, when I see it all laid out there I realize why she was just never for me. I think all that crap is phoney baloney. I think you're right. She played to the audience who would like her. She knew what to say and do to get to the audience she'd eventually sell albums to. Then she went out and put out that album and they let her, completely unlike what happened to Bo. Like I said, I'll give her smart and ambitious and seizing upon an opportunity when it was presented. She did it all right. I do have to hand it to her for that. I cannot take away her savvy.