Former Reality Show Contestants

Well, she was your friend! Sometimes we over react when someone we care about is getting hurt. It's normal. Don't beat yourself up about it

Thanks FC. I really lost it though. I even told Taylor about it! C was not happy. I think he was mostly unhappy that he was caught and others knew about it.

My friend was a little upset; she was shocked I had the nerve to do what I did, I guess, but then she understood. I said I wasn't thinking about who he was at the time, I would have called up anyone who was mistreating her. But then I had to play nice, nice. Sort of.

What makes me happy is that the people on this board are not bent on discrediting each other.

I love that.

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What makes me happy is that the people on this board are not bent on discrediting each other.

I love that.

Me too. Sometimes it was way too easy to get caught up in the emotion of it all, and hard to avoid getting your hands dirty when it gets into the mud slinging, taking sides, and all the angst stirring.

That is now becomming a distant memory and it feels really good to know I don't feel the need to participate or observe that ever again.

We are just the bestest!!

Well I'll put my two cents in. I do not think GB is a good person. I just don't. I do think he is misgyonist. Funny I have ALWAYS said that about Tom Crusie waaaay before he went on his psycho rant .He was always Mr. Faker Fakerson to me . And lo and behold he showed his true colors. So my gut instinct about GB is is he is not a good egg. Do I think people can do bad things and be a food person at heart? Certainly. As far as his cd goes , realistically the market is saturated with former AI contestants. If it does well I will be surprised. The fact that some of his fans will buy multiple copies will make no difference IMO.

As far as Clay goes his humatian work far outweighs any kind of squirmish he gets into. At his heart he is genuine. GB is not.

Aw Aerwin, I know how much you have always appreciated and supported Clay's charitable efforts. Good on ya! AND I couldn't agree more with what you said. He gets international press for where he puts his hand or foot, but very little for his trips to Afghanistan, Uganda, etc. where he puts his hands and feet to great work for the children What a world....

As I read through these descriptions of Constantine's misdeeds, it occurs to me that the reprecussions of those misdeeds are natural and built in. He treats people poorly; as a result, those people he mistreats choose to disassociate themselves from him and his circle of friends and supporters gets smaller. One obvious consequence of this appears to be that at the age of 31 he has had no stable love affairs of any real endurance and a lot of people who have dated him have little good to say.

That sounds like a recipe for a very lonely life. And now, of course, he's getting older and his looks are beginning to go as he begins to go bald. What he does now for his personal life and his career are the things that will make him either happy or bitter, successful or a failure in life, and it's pretty much up to him to make those decisions. Sometimes I am enheartened when I hear he broke down and accepted acting lessons, or collaborated with somebody talented like Jim Boggia and produced some good music. I don't know why Hamboussi renewed his friendship with him, I don't know why the people who remain Constantine's close friends - and he does appear to have some - have made those choices. Maybe he just behaves better with some people than with others. It is still his fault when he makes decisions that alienate people who used to love him.

At any rate, it appears to me that every person's personal experiences with Constantine will largely shape how they view him - and really, that is the case with all people.

As for the Clay thing - I know for certain that he is a humanitarian of great note, that he's very funny and personable on stage, and that he's got one of the best male voices I've ever heard in my life. I think that's all I care to know about. His job is to get up on a stage in Frisco on the Fourth of July and make me laugh, ponder, and applaud in turn for 90 minutes, and then I go back to my life and he goes back to his.

Advice to the lady on the airplane: Practice this phrase. "Excuse me. Please get your foot off my armrest."

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Do I think people can do bad things and be a food person at heart? Certainly.

I'm sorry, aerwin, that tickled me to no end, as I do believe that is a much more accurate statement about GB.

Yes, I do believe that everyone does bad things at certain times in our lives. Anybody who tells you that at some point in their lives they didn't lie, cheat, or steal in some way are...well...lying.

However, when you live your life like that. When it's who you are then, no. You're not a normal good person who sometimes does bad things. You're just a bad person. NOW, the question is - is he a sociopath and therefore totally irredeemable OR could he at some point in his life have a major epiphany and realize how crappy he's been to the people in his life who just wanted to love him? Time will tell.

In answer re: Hamboussi: Personally, I think GB has reached a level of fame (however much it is) that Hamboussi is probably getting some of the benefits of it. That's just my opinion. If he does have friends. REAL friends. People who have known him since he was a kid and just see that he's done some shitty things, but is all and all a really cool person, I'd like to hear from them.

Oddly enough, my personal experience with GB was quite positive. The only time I met him, he was adorable and sweet. Squeezed my hand. Left me a girlish giggly pile of goo. I know. Hard to believe, right? However, when people I came to know as good and honest, told me of their experience, I realized that what he was projecting to the world: aka, that adorkable guy with a sexy side, was a total sham. When I finally opened my eyes and accepted that ALL those stories couldn't be the other person's fault, it was a major fall from squeeing fangirl to utter disgust and hate. In the past, when I've fangirled about someone, I usually just fall out of it. It's like all of a sudden, they just don't hold the same appeal for me anymore.

This one was different because not only did I find out he hurt people, but people I knew personally. He got waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too close to his fans, and as a result, wound up hurting girls who had no experience with that sort of thing. These weren't celebrities. These aren't girls who were engaged to Jim Carey for two weeks and then it fell apart. These were women who bought the package of the sweet sexy guy on the stage and thought they could have a relationship with him, and he was like (and you'll pardon the expression, and I really do hate it) Free pussy? Why not? Then going on his own freakin' message board so he could feed his ego a bit more and get even more uncomfortably close to his fans. Those fans then felt an artificial closeness to him and sent him pm's. Those pm's were answered by a guy who wouldn't know the meaning of "PR" if it bit him on the ass.

So, yeah. What bothers me most about GB is that he fucked with his fans. Women who worshipped and adored him. I'm not talking about the women, to be totally crass here, who gave him a blowjob backstage. They knew what they were doing. I'm talking about the ones who really thought they had a chance of becoming Mrs. Maroulis. I'm talking about the ones who innocently sent him a pm in the hopes that he'd pay them some attention, only to be called horrible names.

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So, yeah. What bothers me most about GB is that he fucked with his fans. Women who worshipped and adored him. I'm not talking about the women, to be totally crass here, who gave him a blowjob backstage. They knew what they were doing.

Exactly. I mean Tom Cruise does'nt even do that!!!!!

He took advantage of vulnerable women when he was in a position of power. Which to me also smells to high heaven. We are talking a real bottom feeder. The Pickler incident also seems like he was taking advantage of a vulnerable person, even if she was'nt the clean cut girl next door like she was portrayed as on AI:evil:

And I don't think this was because of his instant fame or not being able to handle it. I think he has operated like that for years when he was in Rent and when he was in various bands prior to his AI exposure.

The dood should know better at 29-31 years old for Christsakes!!! I really doubt he has learned anything from his mistakes...he just has better representation to cover his exploits up and has'nt been doing the Hollywood party scene as much lately.

GE, I think I love you...

Then he's gonna a have a real hard, cold time at aged 40, isn't he? His own fault.

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Then he's gonna a have a real hard, cold time at aged 40, isn't he? His own fault.

I think he just might have begun to realize it too, but knows there's not much he can do about it.

Sure he can. He always has the option to change the way he treats people, Austin. Now, does he realize that - that's a different matter.

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Then he's gonna a have a real hard, cold time at aged 40, isn't he? His own fault.

...and my honest emotional response was one of sorrow.

I think I really hate it when people who have any sort of spark (which he does, even if I am no longer susceptible or interested in it) spend that spark on unworthy endeavors.

That is my feeling about any of the fans on any of the boards, too, who have a spark and waste it.

Life is often hard, so why not spend it being a decent human.

Rube with Con

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This Just In

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Kat on the big screen. Well, I saw her new music vid and it does not surprise me. The camera loves this girl, and I must say in her new video she is as stunning as a girl can be.

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McPhee joins Columbia's sorority

By Borys Kit and Tatiana Siegel

July 12, 2007

"American Idol" runner-up Katharine McPhee will make her studio acting debut in the untitled Anna Faris project for Columbia Pictures and Happy Madison. McPhee, along with Emma Stone, Rumer Willis, Kat Dennings and comedian Dana Goodman, have signed on to co-star in the comedy, which is being directed by Fred Wolf.

The script, written by "Legally Blonde" scribes Karen McCullah Lutz and Kirsten Smith, centers on a Playboy bunny (Faris) who gets kicked out of the Playboy Mansion and becomes the house mother to the lamest sorority on campus. The casting fills in the major roles of the sorority sisters and solidifies the project as the first female-driven comedy to come out of the shingle.

McPhee will play a pregnant hippy, while Stone will be president of the sorority.

Willis will play an insecure young woman who wears a backbrace even though she could have had it removed years ago. Dennings will portray a pierced women's studies feminist, and Goodman will play the sister who keeps switching majors and should have graduated years ago.

Also cast is Sarah Wright ("Made of Honor"), who will play a conniving young woman from the popular sorority.

Filming is scheduled to begin July 23 in Los Angeles.

Sony's Sam Dickerman and Adam Milano are overseeing for the studio, which is eyeing a late-summer start date.

Heather Parry brought the project into Happy Madison and will shepherd.

The comedy marks the second role McPhee has booked in as many months; in June, she nabbed a role in "The Last Caller," a dark romantic-comedy indie. Her casting in the Faris project, along with "Idol" finalist Jennifer Hudson's acting turn in "Dreamgirls," shows that "Idol" is becoming a fertile ground for finding acting talent as well as vocal talent. McPhee is repped by CAA and Untitled Entertainment.

Stone is shooting "The Rocker" opposite Rainn Wilson and will be seen in Columbia's "Superbad," where she plays Jonah Hill's love interest.

Willis, the daughter of Bruce Willis and Demi Moore, continues to make her push into the family business. She recently was cast in "The Sophomore" for the Yari Film Group and is repped by Untitled.

Dennings is best known for her performance as Catherine Keener's daughter in "The 40-Year-Old Virgin," while Goodman appeared in "Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo."

For the Bo Hos!

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BO BICE
TBA (Stratart)-Sept. TBA

Season four "American Idol" runner-up Bo Bice is getting back to his Southern roots on the follow-up to his 2005 debut, "The Real Thing." "I enjoyed 'The Real Thing,' but [the new album] is more a labor of love,' says the Helena, Ala., native, now inked to indie StratArt. "It's really me getting back to the roots of who Bo is, which is a Southern rock album and nothing more." Recorded in Nashville with producer Frank Liddell, the album boasts more songwriting credits from Bice, who had little say the first time around. He also hand-picked his collaborators, including Gary Nichols and Chris Tompkins, whom Bice has known for more than a decade. "American Blood," one song co-penned by the pair, is a slower, country-driven support song for U.S. troops.

Frazz, it really is sad, isn't it? He had so much potential coming off of AI. If someone who is skilled at getting a hold of this type of guy, getting him a real PR person, not that chick who sat next to him at AI shows, he might have stood a chance. I guess not even his own brother had any control over his behavior. When I talked to him, he seemed to have his head screwed-on straight. Maybe not, though.

He could have done so much, yet all he did was sit around and feed his own ego. If he had been some 20-year-old kid, I could see him taking the route he did. I wouldn't like it, but I'd chalk it up to youth and wait for him to grow out of it. Considering that he was nearly 30 when fame hit, and he'd already had professional experience, that he wasn't GRATEFUL is truly amazing. If it hasn't happened by your early 20's, especially as a singer in this day and age of the hardbody being more important than the voice, you usually resign yourself to playing local clubs, like PFTSOB was doing. It's unbelievable to me that he sat on his ass reading fanfic and did nothing. Boggles the mind.

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Life is often hard, so why not spend it being a decent human.

EXACTLY!

I also think Tom Cruise is a different kind of creepy. He's like "the boy lost his damn mind" creepy. "He doesn't know he's being creepy" creepy.

Luca I...I...love you too.

I love Bo Bice................I am really looking forward to his new CD. I have been so busy here that I haven't had a lot of time to get here. I'll have to visit Bo's site and see if there is a release date! I'm excited...........

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Frazz, it really is sad, isn't it? He had so much potential coming off of AI. If someone who is skilled at getting a hold of this type of guy, getting him a real PR person, not that chick who sat next to him at AI shows, he might have stood a chance. I guess not even his own brother had any control over his behavior. When I talked to him, he seemed to have his head screwed-on straight. Maybe not, though.

Well, I think we can all agree that his personal life is a trainwreck. I don't know about the professional life, though; I've got the impression that he actually learned from some of his mistakes and he has actually repaired some of the damage. I don't know if he would have become a big megastar without a hit sitcom, and it's hardly his fault they didn't even make it to the pilot stage on that project. What I have seen from Con, PROFESSIONALLY ONLY, is this:

1. Erratic work on Idol that did produce some moments of brilliance.
2. Huge post-Idol buzz that landed him a sitcom deal.
3. He sits on his ass and watches his sitcom deal fall through.
4. After some vague fumbling around, including a nightmarish end to his time with Betty, he begins scrounging for real work.
5. Gets it. A stint with Wedding Singer that looks pretty amusing on video. A stint on Brel that I personally know to have been quite good indeed.
6. Begins a collaboration with Jim Boggia that results in several very good songs for his album.
7. Somehow succeeds in convincing the Bold and the Beautiful to act as his PR people in promoting his album.
8. Succeeds in getting more attention for his new project than any two year defunct AI contestant has any right to expect and deserve.

Abrahammy's evaluation: He is capable of putting forth effort to improve. Learns from some of his mistakes.

Prognosis: May end up making a living at this.

I think the professional picture is much brighter than the personal one. I haven't heard any reports of him being nice to people he's sleeping with lately.

Do you have reports of him sleeping with people??!! Do tell

I missed the B&B yesterday. Too busy with kids and lost track of time. Was he on? I didn't see him on all week.

I agree with you about him learning some lessons professionally. I think he is really trying now.

No, I actually seem to be the person in this forum who knows the fewest details about his sex life!

abrahammy wrote:

No, I actually seem to be the person in this forum who knows the fewest details about his sex life!

No, that would be me

firecracker wrote:

abrahammy wrote:

No, I actually seem to be the person in this forum who knows the fewest details about his sex life!

No, that would be me

Well, ya'll are lucky, that's all I can say.

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Well, ya'll are lucky, that's all I can say. Embarassed

And this is almost certainly why she and I are the two who are best able to put up with him.